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Jan 27 14 1:20 AM

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Hello.  First thank you to all who contribute to this forum as its been a fantastic resource in determining exactly what I got when I bought six Nagel prints/posters at Goodwill last week for $9.99/each. I was really only looking for a large frame, but it seems I got lucky. 4 have COA's from Merill Chase.

I evemtually determined I have 3 lifetimes ("Mirage" SIS w/vertical letters, "Sunglasses" SIS, and "Swimmers" hand signed).  I also got CN 4, CN 6, & CN 8. However the real mystery is "Swimmers".  Although its hand signed in what looks like pencil, its not numbered. Instead to the left of the signature "H/C" appears. I'm familiar with what it means (essentially 'not for commercial sale"). But I've only found one reference to Nagel and "H/C" prints, that being a rerencence to another work that said there were 10 "H/C" prints made (but also said no other info was available).

Does anyone know more about Nagel and "H/C" prints? Any information on how common they are, what my "Swimmers" might be worth, or perhaps even to where or whom his "H/C" prints went originally (in general) would be appreciated very much.  Thanks!

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Jan 29 14 12:14 AM

Nice find. I'd say $200-350 for signed Swimmers. Sorry, no knowledge of H/Cs. Definitely not common. I wonder what purpose they served, given that Nagel also used A/Ps. But I do not think the rarity of H/C will result in a price premium over S/N.

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Jan 30 14 9:03 AM

Might be a "not for sale" designation

This from Wikipedia:

 prints that are given to someone or are for some reason unsuitable for sale are marked "H. C." or "H/C", meaning "hors de commerce", not for sale. These are usually prints reserved for the publisher, like Artist's Proofs. The printer is also often allowed to retain some proof impressions; these are marked "P. P." 

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edition

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Jan 30 14 12:45 PM

Hi, thanks for replying. Like I said I'm aware of what it means, especially in the modern era. It's not an unsuitable print. My best informed guess is that is was used to show to galleries. But since I cannot find any reference to how many H/C's Nagel made (other than what I previously mentioned) or how Nagel used them, I thought I'd ask. I dont have the full provenance, but it has occured to me that the print might be worth more if Nagel only used the H/C mark in certain circumstances (as opposed to making 10-30 for galleries on every piece). It's just hard to know since I can't find another H/C example of his.

I appreciate the first posters opinion on the value and whether it might command a premium (or not). Does anyone else have thoughts?

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Jan 21 17 5:02 AM

In the book Nagel: The Art of Patrick Nagel, there are several errors and omissions including not listing some prints we know had doubles (pretty much all of the Wasserman printed serigraphs that are 17" x 25" have some doubles out there) and some are on Mirage price lists but not mentioned in the Nagel book.

Silver Sunbeam is the only print in the book where it is listed to include a state of HC prints.

In terms of value, folks always like to know their print is real and it helps if there is some documentation that backs up its authenticy. After looking at your posted pictures, it is clear to me your print is a real Nagel print, but a less informed collector, or one who might want to sell it later might fear that the book does not note that this version of this print exists. So, it is rare, but it is also not part of the most official record we're got, so value is likely to be about level with signed and numbered prints.

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